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What should our new name be?

Distinguished Gentlemen's Brigade
3 (13.6%)
Maggot Fortress 2
2 (9.1%)
People's Republic of Shenanigans
17 (77.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: September 01, 2009, 09:09:31 am

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FINAL VOTE!
« on: August 30, 2009, 09:09:31 am »
You have TWO days to cast your vote.
You CAN change it.
Results CANNOT be viewed until the poll is closed. Fuck it.

We all knew anyway--BUT, 36 more hours to go.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 09:03:19 pm by Virally Yours »

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 09:16:06 am »
to have an unbias sample, we must have six polls, each with different names as first, second, and last. The order of the names is a variable that may change and influence people's opinions based on what they see first, which will leave an impression for now and later.

This poll also shows bias of the poll maker, for not thinking of this amazing strategy to combat bias in polls.

After making the three polls and analyzing the results, we must average out the votes for each option, and make sure that the winning option is winning by more than 0.166666 (repeating) votes, for that means that that option only won by one person overall. Therefore, in that case we must make a tiebreaker between the top two options, again, having two polls to compensate for the first impression effect of the bias poll.

I would like to see this implemented ASAP, for this bias in the poll is ruining our community.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 09:26:08 am by safibn »
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 10:34:03 am »
Sorry, I couldn't reply to tell you that was really dumb because I was laughing until now.

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 10:49:41 am »
Sorry, I couldn't reply to tell you that was really dumb because I was laughing until now.

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 11:09:48 am »
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 12:37:53 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 05:42:28 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 06:03:07 pm »
This thread is awesome.

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 06:05:04 pm »

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2009, 07:45:01 pm »
to have an unbias sample, we must have six polls, each with different names as first, second, and last. The order of the names is a variable that may change and influence people's opinions based on what they see first, which will leave an impression for now and later.

This poll also shows bias of the poll maker, for not thinking of this amazing strategy to combat bias in polls.

After making the three polls and analyzing the results, we must average out the votes for each option, and make sure that the winning option is winning by more than 0.166666 (repeating) votes, for that means that that option only won by one person overall. Therefore, in that case we must make a tiebreaker between the top two options, again, having two polls to compensate for the first impression effect of the bias poll.

I would like to see this implemented ASAP, for this bias in the poll is ruining our community.

The bias caused by order in this specific case is minor enough that it most likely will not be statistically significant due to the low sample size.  There are some biases that this sample suffers from, but they make sense.  It suffers from voluntary response bias, however we would only want those that care enough to vote to respond anyways.  It will suffer from nonresponse bias, but that is unavoidable unless you want to track people down and show up at their house threatening them.  This poll does not have response bias except for its ordering, and its ordering should only be of minimal influence.

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2009, 08:14:58 pm »
The bias caused by order in this specific case is minor enough that it most likely will not be statistically significant due to the low sample size.  There are some biases that this sample suffers from, but they make sense.  It suffers from voluntary response bias, however we would only want those that care enough to vote to respond anyways.  It will suffer from nonresponse bias, but that is unavoidable unless you want to track people down and show up at their house threatening them.  This poll does not have response bias except for its ordering, and its ordering should only be of minimal influence.

so are you saying that to prevent bias in this poll we must go to every voter's house and threaten them with a weapon to have a full and complete sample?

The problem is that all of our voters are male, with the exception of one or two. We need more females. This leads me to believe that half of us should and must get a sex change so that the voting will be unbias.

Another problem is the age groups! Does the e-drama ever stop!? we need to wait another 50 years and hopefully get more younger members in PROS so that we can later divide the sample into male/female, and age groups. This will give us a more detailed analysis of who is voting and wherer their votes are going, thus we will plesase the majority.

I have also found another solution to the order of appearence bias. We must make people type the beginning of any name they want, and see if it is on the voting list. Hopefully if someone searches people, they are interested in people, so the People's Republic of Shenanigans will pop up first, followed by the second related search, followed by the third.

See....If only they let me and you run the poll, things would be a lot better.

And this is why, I conclude, that the loch-nedd monster is not real, for the tiny swedish town in which it was "pictured" was probably suffering from post world war economy crisis, and needed a touristic attraction to restore its shattered economy.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 08:45:52 pm »
....... there is so much fail I cant possible think of anything to say to that.

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 09:01:30 pm »
....... there is so much fail I cant possible think of anything to say to that.
I tried to be sly about his fail, I guess he didn't pick up on it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 09:30:15 pm »
Dude, Assaf... idk what you're trying to pull off here but just stop. xD

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 10:05:47 pm »
Why are you even taking it seriousely? It's just a joke...

I can't joke around once in a while?
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »
I propose a tag other than [PROS]

maybe pros >> name

to rip a page out of the suave manual..

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2009, 10:26:27 pm »
Why are you even taking it seriousely? It's just a joke...

I can't joke around once in a while?

I got it.  I just wanted to spam quotes.

Pretty sure that everyone doesn't care what you're actually saying and takes you at face value all the time, just because they're afraid they might find something funny.  >_>

Maybe I'm wrong.

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2009, 10:46:16 pm »
I propose a tag other than [PROS]

maybe pros >> name

to rip a page out of the suave manual..

LOL WE SHUD MAKE IT pro$

I don't know though, something clean.

Pros. Name?

Name.pros?

Hm, I'm fucking around on steam, and I like "Virally Yours, pros" quite a bit.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 10:52:28 pm by Virally Yours »

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2009, 10:57:15 pm »
I like [PROS].

The square brackets of the name are facing inwards to focus the attention to the acronym itself. Using other ASCII symbols like the dollar sign ($) makes the name look like random squiggles, which are hard to take in at a quick glance. We want our name to be remembered well, and so we write it in the simplest and easiest form to see and remember well at a quick sight of it. Seeing names with too many symbols and strange lettering takes time and effort to read and understand what they could possibly mean. This is a symbol of an overegotistic clan, mwho thinks they are above everyone else who uses letters. However, the cruel harsh reality is that letters are the simplest form of communication, which allows the name to be read and understood easily.

The square brackets around the name also put it in an enclosed space, showing that it is seperate from the name itself. For example, BOB.PROS could be read as bob the pro or bob bro's at a quick glace. We want people to know that the PROS is not part of our actual name, but is a symbol of our identity. As a people's Republic after a dictatorship, we need to focus on the fact that we are an organized group. Stange symbols that look like letters do not cut it, and therefore are not good for the name title.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2009, 11:03:40 pm »
I like [PROS].

The square brackets of the name are facing inwards to focus the attention to the acronym itself. Using other ASCII symbols like the dollar sign ($) makes the name look like random squiggles, which are hard to take in at a quick glance. We want our name to be remembered well, and so we write it in the simplest and easiest form to see and remember well at a quick sight of it. Seeing names with too many symbols and strange lettering takes time and effort to read and understand what they could possibly mean. This is a symbol of an overegotistic clan, mwho thinks they are above everyone else who uses letters. However, the cruel harsh reality is that letters are the simplest form of communication, which allows the name to be read and understood easily.

The square brackets around the name also put it in an enclosed space, showing that it is seperate from the name itself. For example, BOB.PROS could be read as bob the pro or bob bro's at a quick glace. We want people to know that the PROS is not part of our actual name, but is a symbol of our identity. As a people's Republic after a dictatorship, we need to focus on the fact that we are an organized group. Stange symbols that look like letters do not cut it, and therefore are not good for the name title.

Okay, now you're trying way too hard.

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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2009, 11:07:48 pm »
Well he is trying to fit in with the cool kids... but failing rather hard.

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2009, 11:22:59 pm »
I like it with the brackets because it seems more separate from the name, but I think as long as we have an acronym down as long as it's in the name somehow, be it with brackets, or a period or whatever, it's all good.

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2009, 11:27:14 pm »
I'm doing
name .pros
I like it...
We had 2 totally different tags for shens... We can have an "official" tag, but honestly the odds of everyone using it are roughly 0% (between Jeed and I :P)...
I like the pros >> name one, that's cool... It might make the name too long though, because that's 4 characters of taginess other than the actual pros thing... mine only uses 2 :D

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2009, 11:34:49 pm »

pros >> smitty
smitty[PRoS]
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2009, 11:44:48 pm »
[PROS] name

I will be using that
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