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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2009, 02:46:11 pm »
Old pyro wasn't so hard against scouts.  Your range covered their most effective range, and you could spray to keep them away (and maybe ignite them if they got overzealous) and follow up with a flare when they backed off.  It was more or less footsie, though, where they have a spread hitscan and you don't (or a worse one).  If you had the element of surprise, they died, but that's pretty much a given with any class.  Now?  Forget about it.  Find a corner, or die.

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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2009, 04:41:31 pm »
I think we need to put safibn, as pyro, in a server with Jeed, as scout, and watch as safibn slowly breaks down and starts crying at his complete inability to kill the scout that is currently point blank range and not shooting. Then we can bring Shadowgene in, as scout obviously, let him go 50-0, and then call it a night.

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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2009, 05:00:33 pm »
I think we need to put safibn, as pyro, in a server with Jeed, as scout, and watch as safibn slowly breaks down and starts crying at his complete inability to kill the scout that is currently point blank range and not shooting. Then we can bring Shadowgene in, as scout obviously, let him go 50-0, and then call it a night.

I played Warpath against Shadowgene as a Pyro before when we were trying to populate the server, it was fun, but I'm going to tell you now that you need a Shotgun to kill a scout, the flaregun will not cut it since they can dodge it.  The pyro's shotgun will outdamage their pistol outside flamethrower range, but they will run in and Scattergun you while you have the shotgun out, then run back if you try and take the flamethrower out.  So, the pyro gets raped despite using the shotgun, but at least you got to try.

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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2009, 09:21:26 pm »
I think we need to put safibn, as pyro, in a server with Jeed, as scout, and watch as safibn slowly breaks down and starts crying at his complete inability to kill the scout that is currently point blank range and not shooting. Then we can bring Shadowgene in, as scout obviously, let him go 50-0, and then call it a night.

As I have stated many times, my strategy does not work against good scouts.

I have killed many scouts using it, but when shadowgene is on the server, not even a lvl 3 sentry can kill him.
I think I can make it.
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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2009, 10:43:12 pm »
Okay.

I joined the shens server and found shadowgene. The map was labor, full of healthpacks.

Shadow's kill/death was about 4. Now before you go about telling me that's horrible on my part, con"cedar" the following:

Shadowgene is rank 4 in our stats.
I'm not the best pyro
Labor has tonnes of health packs perfect for extinguishing fire
I had him running for health many many times, and if it weren't for the health, he would have died much more.
Weve tested this: It takes only 3 successfull flare gun hits to kill a scoot
Without axetinguisher, it takes about 2 seconds of flame to kill a scoot.

What I have learned:

Against good scouts, you are better off flanking and ambushing and not bothering with your axetinguisher (just flare gun and mainly flames), since a good scout will manage to squirm away form the axe.

Against normal scouts:

flare gun/flame, airblast as much as you can, then axe them.
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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2009, 10:48:42 pm »
look, if you are a pyro and wanna handle a scout, reverse the roles and you be the one running for the healthpacks..keep chipping at him with a shotty or flare gun and move the fight towards the healthpacks.  with any luck he will wanna grab the pack you are heading for to extinguish himself and keep you from healing, and with any luck that will put him in range of flamethrower.  Plain and simple run away from him or keep it around corners.

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Re: What I do to scouts as pyro
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2009, 11:32:00 pm »
look, if you are a pyro and wanna handle a scout, reverse the roles and you be the one running for the healthpacks..keep chipping at him with a shotty or flare gun and move the fight towards the healthpacks.  with any luck he will wanna grab the pack you are heading for to extinguish himself and keep you from healing, and with any luck that will put him in range of flamethrower.  Plain and simple run away from him or keep it around corners.
This. They can always fall back and reset the fight because of their speed, but that's either a win for you or the scout retreating.

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